Showing posts with label filming locations. Show all posts
Showing posts with label filming locations. Show all posts

January 29, 2014

Filming location: THE WARRIORS (1978) - return to Coney Island

The Warriors lobby card - on the boardwalk

This is all about The Warriors (1979) and probably not too interesting if you haven't seen it. Here's a taster of the images and characters from the film, if you want to seek it out. If you have seen it, you'll know that Coney Island is the Warriors turf, you dig? The safe home base they're trying to get back to.

Shot over 35 years ago, almost totally on location around New York City, The Warriors has dozens of filming locations that you can still visit because they've changed very little. 


Just after returning from New York in November last year, I found this blog, Nick Carr's Scouting NY, with this guide to every known location used in the film. Just my luck to find this article after I get back, and it also throws up information about the cheats used in the film, stations that didn't play themselves in the movie, even Coney cheated... (more later). A reminder that I should really watch films immediately before visiting their locations, but have you any idea how many films have been filmed in New York? I know I don't.


In terms of my own half-assed detective work, I've been to New York twice since seeing the film, and twice I visited Coney Island, in 2000 and 2013, hence my mix of analogue and digital photos. It's also a pleasant place to visit, being a tranquil, seaside break away from busy, busy Manhattan, yet only a subway ride away.

Besides the fun fair, there's the massive boardwalk stretching along the top of the beach, and a pier. The whole area was once ridiculously popular in the summer. Both our visits, the beach was deserted.




The Cyclone rollercoaster, 2000
A short walk from Coney Island station, just before you hit the beach, is the fun fair. Looking towards the sea, the Cyclone rollercoaster is at the far left of the fair. 


We rode this in 2000. It's rather old but still packs a punch - the element of danger amplified by its ancient-looking wooden structure! (Note that the observation lift was still there, and note the Astroland sign.)


I missed riding the Wonder Wheel in 2000, when the fair was called Astroland. Now it's all called Luna Park and, but was shut for the winter. Maybe I'll ride it next time. The fair took damage from Hurricane Sandy in 2012 (according to Wikipedia).

Luna Park, 2013
The Wonder Wheel symbolises Coney Island for the Warriors. The opening shot of the film is the Wonder Wheel at night. Super that it's still there. 2000 was a big year for Coney island. Besides our visiting, it was the location for Requiem For A Dream, directed by Darren Aronofsky who grew up in nearby Manhattan Beach.



Above, a screengrab from The Warriors: the road, the Cyclone at the end of the street and Wonder Wheel (far right) are still there now, but the orange-tipped observation tower and the foreground ferris wheel are now gone (my 2013 photo below).


Same angle, but only the Cyclone at the end of the road, and the Wonder Wheel remain.


On the boardwalk, this time around there was a cafe and a couple of gift shops - books of photos of how the fun fair used to look, and even a couple of items with The Warriors written on them (pounce).






Between our two visits, the Parachute Jump - the huge red tower of girders - had been completely dismantled and rebuilt. I remember Aronofsky saying in an interview that it had been torn down, but didn't hear it had gone back up again! 


Further along the boardwalk, there is now a parking lot, a lot overgrown with vegetation and then a sports stadium. Back in 2000, one of those lots was a second, larger, wooden rollercoaster - The Thunderbolt. Apparently it was dismantled later that year, so we only just caught it. I'm thinking it stood where the new stadium is now. 

2013: new stadium on the left, same overgrown grass next to it
I think The Thunderbolt rollercoaster was the setting for the final resting place of The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms. Of course, a friend living in New York has pointed out that while Beast was set in New York, it was all filmed in L.A.! The shots of the rollercoaster would have been visual effect shots (photographs?) and a Ray Harryhausen model. 


Another wrinkle in treading in The Warriors' footsteps is that, as pointed out in the Scouting NY article, the beach scenes don't match the beach at Coney Island! In the film, the beach is backed with sand dunes. But as you can see below, there are no sand dunes, just a flat, gentle slope right up to the Boardwalk. So where's the beach?





The wonderfully long end credits shot, looking along the beach, where they walk into the distance looks very much like the view you get from the present Coney Island pier. Here's me thinking of a happy ending.


The credits show two lines of rocks heading into the sea, along with a row of wooden stakes. My 2013 shot (below) seems to match pretty well - the wood has gone, but there are very similar lines of rocks. 


This was taken from the pier, but zoomed in a long way.


Slow zoom out


Zoomed out all the way - distant rocks barely visible

Coney Island makes me happy, but next time this blog means we can visit many more locations, like the site of the big gang meeting...

Scouting NY guide to The Warriors filming locations, with dozens of 'then and now' photos.

Coney Island on Wikipedia.

All photos by Mark Hodgson and David Tarrington



October 18, 2013

Filming Location: MONTY PYTHON AND THE HOLY GRAIL (1974) - Castle Argh!




This iconic castle from Monty Python and the Holy Grail appears to be in the middle of a lake, but actually guards an inlet from the sea. Called "Castle Argh" in the film, it's real name is Castle Stalker. Now a private residence, as it was when the film was made, the building and island are only open to the public on selected dates every year, and need to be pre-booked (here at the Castle Stalker website). Our holiday in Scotland was arranged at the last minute, but we still went to see what we could see.



Castle Stalker can be clearly seen from the coast road, the A282, that runs between the towns of Oban and Fort William - it's closest to the village of Appin. There's a small lay-by where you can park and get this view (above and below) of the castle.



Note the lighthouse at top left. With constantly changing weather, low cloud or mist, the background can almost totally disappear.



Also look out for the Castle Stalker Cafe, easy to spot along the coast road, to view it from another angle. Also get souvenirs and shelter from the rain in the cafe which overlooks the castle. The path from the car park allows a closer look, though the trees are very nearly in the way.



The angle from the car park looks like it's 180 degrees from the one in the film, meaning that the scene below was shot on that beach in the distance.



I always thought it was a joke that King Arthur and Sir Bedevere take a boat out, then walk back from the castle. But at low tide, this is in fact possible, because the bay is so shallow. Still dangerous if you get your timing wrong...


(For more Filming Locations, check the list in the side bar at the right)




September 27, 2013

Filming Location: THE INNOCENTS (1961) - not far from HELL HOUSE!


Yesterday, we went to look at the main location used for The Legend of Hell House. As it's only a few miles away from another famous horror film location, we did two locations in one trip. Again, Derek Pykett's guidebook, British Horror Film Locations, points to where the exteriors for Jack Clayton's The Innocents were filmed, over fifty years ago. Deborah Kerr starred in this classic, layered ghost story, enormously enhanced by cinematographer Freddie Francis. It's deservedly been restored and released on blu-ray by the BFI.



But once again, there are no more details in the guidebook. We'd no clues how to find specific scenes and camera angles. Like many movie location guides, an address is only the beginning of some amateur, nerdy detective work. 

As usual, I'd prepared badly and not seen the film recently. Instead I'd found some key screengrabs online of scenes that looked like they might still be recognisable (visible parts of buildings or landscape that might still exist) and in particular the haunting shot of the shadowy figure in the reeds - a shot that really frightened me and I've always wanted to see for real. Easier said than done...

The exteriors of The Innocents were shot at Sheffield Park and Garden, a huge National Trust site nowhere near Sheffield! It's actually in East Sussex just off the A23, a few miles outside of Brighton, and only a few miles east of 'Hell House'. 





Sheffield Park Hall



Like the Hell House location, this mansion is now a private residence, but there's a great view of the front from inside Sheffield Park Garden. Near the entrance to the garden (there's an admission fee of £8.50 unless you're a National Trust or Royal Horticultural Society member) is the best view that the public can get of this huge house. 



But looking at online photos of the house, the terrace - where key scenes of the story take place - appears to be a studio set (or a different location?). From other photos online, and the aerial views, there doesn't appear to be a paved terrace on either side of the mansion. Not any more, anyway.



Looking closer, I was keen to find this turret, where the shadow of Quint appears. But compared to this screengrab, the stonework matches but I couldn't find a close match - again this could have been faked (perhaps the corner has been faked with a matte painting?).



I took these two close-ups to try and find a match for that turret, but there's apparently no corner like it. 





Sheffield Park Garden


We had more luck as we walked round the gardens, and the staff also gave us some useful pointers as to where to look. Sheffield Park is huge, but the carefully landscaped garden is a manageable stroll.
The house can be seen, on this aerial view from Google Maps, at top left (with the circular drive above it). The garden entrance is just below the main house. The ornamental gardens enclose four huge artificially-made ponds, each constructed at a different water level, a cascade feature leading from one pond to another, each cascade with an ornamental bridge. 



The first bridge is where you get this grand view of the mansion looking across 'Ten Foot Pond'.



Here's a photo of the high side of the first bridge, also called Top Bridge. Note that it's made entirely of stonework...




The missing gazebo!  


The gazebo (at right) was probably only put there for the film but, incredibly, there are still palm trees (behind Deborah Kerr, far left) at a similar spot in the gardens.


On the lower side of the stone 'Top Bridge' is Pelham Falls, usually a grand water feature, but not operational on this day. But here too are two palm trees, on the right. We took another shot (below) from the clearing seen (above) on the left.


At the base of Pelham Falls - this angle is taken from the grass clearing to the left of the stone bridge. The grass slopes down steeply towards the water, matching the high camera angle in the gazebo shot. I believe this clearing is where they shot that gazebo scene, with those palm trees in the background.





Spooky bridge



A distant figure, dressed in black, standing amongst the reeds. This was the scene I really wanted to find. But water, reeds and trees can change totally over fifty years. The only real clue was that bridge... 

This was the toughest, but most satisfying find of the day, but only when I got home and looked at all our photos again! I'd used this screengrab (above), viewed on an iPhone, to guide me to find this specific angle of a bridge. But in Sheffield Garden there are three bridges to investigate, each could have been filmed from either side...

Assuming that that bridge hadn't been completely rebuilt since 1961, which is a fairly big assumption, Top Bridge was first eliminated because it was made of stone and didn't have iron work railings.




This second bridge, referred to as Middle Bridge, has iron railings. It joins Middle Lake to the huge, split 'Woman's Way' pond at the east of the garden. 



I shot the Middle Bridge from both sides, note the drop in water level on this 'backside' view (above). This was a possible match because of the size of the bridge and the background of trees. But the railing work didn't match, and the stone base of the bridge is quite flat. In the screengrab the base is arched more. It had possibly been rebuilt, but otherwise still not a definite match.



The third bridge, 'Cascade Bridge' joins Upper and Lower Woman's Way Pond (see the map). I'd decided that the shape of the bridge looked the most likely and had been shot somewhere from this side, from the west shore of Upper Woman's Way Pond, somewhere behind a small covered bench called the 'Summer House'. This theory was despite the fact that the bridge railings were vertical, whereas the screengrab shows a crossgate pattern.


I took this zoomed-in shot to try and approximate how the scene might have been framed, imagining reeds in the foreground. But, once we got home, I found that I'd got it wrong.



Here's me on Cascade Bridge, blissfully unaware that on one side there are vertical railings, but on the other side there's a cross gate pattern! I'd also not looked at the screengrab close enough. The figure in black is stood up above the water level (rather eerily), her head is level with the base of the bridge. This indicates that she was filmed from the lower pond. I think there's also a glimpse of the stone cascade to the left of the reed bed. I'd taken dozens of photos of the wrong side of the bridge!




Luckily, we'd also photographed the Lower side of Cascade Bridge. It's from the wrong angle (left, not right) but the other bank isn't accessible, and it also looks like they might have filmed it from the centre of the lake!




Therefore, I'd nominate Cascade Bridge as being in that spooky scene from The Innocents, filmed from Lower Woman's Way Pond. If you can shoot a better match, please share it with us! 

Lastly, Cascade Bridge is actually supposed to be haunted. Before the bridge was built, a headless woman was said to walk across the cascade (presumably giving the ponds the name 'Woman's Way')...



Another mystery ticked off the list, but we still haven't visited The Texas Chain Saw Massacre steak house...





Visitors' information for The National Trust site for Sheffield Park House and Garden.

Location report: The Legend of Hell House - Wykehurst Place isn't far away...

Once again, thanks to my husband, David, for the additional photography and for driving me into horror movie territory. Again. Thankfully cream teas were available and there weren't any coach parties in town.





September 26, 2013

Filming Location: THE LEGEND OF HELL HOUSE (1973) - deepest, darkest Sussex


Didn't we have a loverly time, the day we went to Hell House...

Always, always, always wanted to see Hell House, the actual building used as the exterior location for John Hough's The Legend of Hell House (1973). Well, today was that day. 



Zero research went into tracking this location down - it's all written up in Derek Pykett's 2008 guidebook, British Horror Film Locations. It's not far from the A23, a few miles outside Brighton. But how much of the house can you actually still see?

Hell House was shot there forty years ago, primarily for the scene when the team of psychic researchers arrive to investigate 'the Mount Everest of haunted houses'. Throughout the film, there are various scary angles of the outside to denote passage of time (the interiors were all shot in a film studio). 


It's called Wykehurst Place and is now a private residence. While I'd love them to be running a location tour and a Halloween haunted house 'maze' attraction, in reality, the front gate is as close as you can get. There's no point in trespassing, please don't even consider it - that'll just freak out the owners into closing it all off completely from the public, then no-one will be able to see it. 



We just stood at the front gates, which were open, and took these photos. The stone gate pillars are still topped with the iconic eagle statues - though the trees now surround one and obscure the other.



We could still get a great view of the whole building, thankfully of the north side, which was used in the film. From the drawing in the guidebook, the south-facing side is quite spectacular - looking like it actually could house 105 rooms - but that side is less creepy-looking, besides being hidden from view.



In the film, I think the team approach from the other end of the drive - from the east (picture left). We couldn't quite see the bell tower from this viewpoint.



The east approach is gated off from cars and walkers, but we could still get this glimpse of the house from the road (above), as well as a view of some of the private grounds of Wykehurst Park which extend for miles - a large area of grass and woodland.





My preview of The Legend of Hell House (no spoilers, if you've not seen it yet) is here...

Later that day we drove a few miles to another horror movie location, from The Innocents. Photos here...


A huge thank you to my husband, for putting up with these insane daytrips and also for taking some of the photos, otherwise you'd never know we'd been there...